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title: A Story of Unemployment to Dream Job in Customer Insights
description: On this episode of Ponderings from the Perch, CEO Priscilla McKinney talks with Raina Rusnak of Starkist about building an insights function from scratch.
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What happens when you walk into a company with no insights function, where everyone is conducting their own research?

On this episode of Ponderings from the Perch, the [Little Bird Marketing](https://littlebirdmarketing.com/) podcast, host and CEO [Priscilla McKinney](https://www.linkedin.com/in/priscillamckinney/) talks with guest and Head of Consumer Insights at [StarKist](https://starkist.com), [Raina Rusnak](https://www.linkedin.com/in/rainarusnak/), about building an insights function from the ground up. They discuss how she transformed a fragmented research environment into a strategic advantage by focusing on customer insights and establishing proper survey design standards that serve multiple internal stakeholders.

Rusnak got to work when she discovered teams were about to launch a 30-minute survey. A 30-minute survey! Instead, she applied her insights expertise and was able to help everyone shift gears, right size the survey and still get everyone the insights they needed. She got some quick wins by conducting low-budget DIY research to establish credibility quickly. Rusnak revealed how she worked hard to get market research insights efforts aligned with executive-level discussions by taking the initiative to understand business needs and deliver strategic recommendations. "I spent time being curious and asking people what their pain points were," Rusnak explains. "I would ask, ‘If I could wave a magic wand and give you an insight right now, what would that be?’"

The discussion also covers Rusnak's experience during 18 months of unemployment right before she landed this job at StarKist, which led her to write "[Sampling Life: 100 Ways to Find Joy in Unemployment.](https://www.amazon.com/Sampling-Life-Ways-Find-Unemployment/dp/B0DNM84ZS2)" She shares how being time-rich during unemployment allowed her to engage her mind, body, and connections while staying present and maintaining resilience through the job search process. She uses this book to encourage others now in that place and promotes the great job of networking and connection available through the [Insights Career Network](https://insightscareernetwork.org/). 

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